Who is Lloyd Lund? ... the investigation continues

Last time, I wasn't sure which Lloyd Lund was "my" Lloyd. I had two choices...Lloyd W. and Lloyd H.

3. Next, I decided to do a general Ancestry search for Lloyd Lund born 1918 ± 1 yr, born in Utah. The 1920 Census I've already looked at came up, along with the 1930 England Family and Thomas Lund Family Censuses. But...I also got hits for Lloyd Wayne  Lund and Lloyd Harold Lund's Military Records. Now we're on to something! So, I looked at both and found the connection...to Sadie Lund!! BINGO!

So "my" Lloyd is in fact - Lloyd Wayne Lund. Born 7 Oct 1918 to Sadie Lund Lyon. A father isn't listed so that leads me to believe that he was born out of wedlock. Sadie didn't marry George Benjamin Lyon until 1939 - Lloyd would have been nearly 21 years old! I doubt that George was his father and then waited 20 years to marry his mother. To find that, I guess I'd have to find his Birth or Death Certificate...both of which aren't available for free on the Utah Archives website, yet. I could pay to money, but I'll probably just wait.

4. From additional research I found Lloyd's obituary.

Lloyd Wayne Lund
Standard-Examiner (Ogden, UT) - July 10, 2004
Together Again

OGDEN - Lloyd Wayne Lund , 85, passed away Tuesday, July 6, 2004 at the Crestwood Care Center in Ogden, of causes incident to age.

He was born October 7, 1918 in Plain City, to Sadie Bardella Lund. He was raised in Plain City by his uncle and aunt, Peter M. and Elvira L. Folkman. He graduated from Weber High School.

He married Bessie Grow on October 23, 1942 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Their marriage was solemnized in the Salt Lake LDS Temple on September 22, 1943. They loved and cherished each other throughout their lives. They had just celebrated their 61st wedding anniversary before

Bessie passed away October 31, 2003. They lived in Ogden throughout their married life.
Lloyd was a veteran of World War II and was a true patriot.

He was a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and had a strong testimony of the Gospel. He served in many church capacities throughout his life. He was a member of four bishoprics, a high priest leader, and a temple worker. He was very organized and gave his best in all he did.

He was a Rural Letter Carrier for the U.S. Postal Service for 30 years, retiring in 1979. He was a member of the United Rural Letter Carriers Association and was a member of the Veteran of Foreign Wars Association. Lloyd loved his home, yard, and his church responsibilities. He was an exceptionally kind and loving man to all who knew him.

The family would like to thank the wonderful staff at Crestwood Care Center, as well as the Applegate Hospice nurses for their loving care and attention. It was greatly appreciated.

Surviving are several nieces and nephews.

Lloyd was preceded in death by Bessie, his parents, one sister/cousin, Amy Robson, four brothers/cousins, Clair Folkman, Roy Folkman, Cliff Folkman, and Royal Carver.

Funeral services will be held Saturday, July 10, 2004 at 3 p.m. at Lindquists Ogden Mortuary, 3408 Washington Blvd., with Bishop Neil Garner, presiding.

Family and friends may call at the mortuary on Saturday from 2 to 2:45 p.m.
Interment, Lindquists Washington Heights Memorial Park, 4500 Washington Blvd.
Email condolences to the family at lom@lindquistmortuary.com.

Section: Obits
Record Number: 10AE162C8C1FBBD3
Copyright 2004, 2005 Standard-Examiner

It doesn't appear that he and Bessie had any children. His family preceding him in death are listed as sister/cousin or brother/cousin. So according to this he was raised by the Folkman's. So who are the England's? Amy Robson was the reference in the 1930 Census.

It all seems a bit jumbled still but at least now I know that Lloyd Lund is Sadie Lund's son, most likely born out of wedlock. She later married George Lyon and I don't think had any more children. Lloyd was raised by the Folkman's, but at some point was living with the England's and is referenced in connection with Amy Robson. I guess I'm left with more questions than answers, but know more than I started with...which is the goal.

Who is Lloyd Lund?

If you remember from the 1920 Census for the Mathias Lund Family, I found a new relative...Lloyd Lund. At the time (Jan 1920) he was 1 2/12 years old and listed as "Son". I believe him to be the son of either Sadie or Clyde (so Mathias' grandson). Both were listed as single, so perhaps he was born out of wedlock. Here's what I did and what I found.

1. First, I looked for Sadie and Clyde Lund (Mathias' daughters) in the 1930 Census, on Ancestry. I found them listed as "sister" to Heber C Lund, Mathias' son. So far that all makes sense. They were living in Farr West, Utah which is only a few miles from Plain City. But where is Lloyd?

Source: 1930 U.S. Census, Plain City Precinct, population schedule, Plain City Precinct, enumeration district (ED) 29-5 (SD) 1-Utah, sheet 4A, dwelling 67, family 67, Heber C. Lund Family; digital images, Ancestry (Ancestry.com : downloaded 19 June 2011); NARA.

2. Then I thought I might as well look for Lloyd Lund in the 1930 census, again on Ancestry. I found two...Lloyd W. and Lloyd H. So which, if either, is my Lloyd? Lloyd W. was in Plain City while Lloyd H. was in Salt Lake. Plain City makes more sense, but Salt Lake might work just as well.

Lloyd H. was living with the Thomas Lund Family and listed as son. While his age (10 yrs) made sense I wasn't sure he was the right one...was he maybe adopted by relatives? I hadn't come across Thomas and Clara Lund yet...how (if at all) are they related to Mathias and Pauline?

Source: Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002. Year: 1930; Census Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah; Roll: 2418; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 4; Image: 1268.0.

Lloyd W. was living with the England family and listed as nephew along with some other notes that I couldn't read. Also, off to the side it says to see Line 119, which is for the Ralph and Amy Robson family. Not sure who they are either.

Source: Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002. Year: 1930; Census Place: Plain City, Weber, Utah; Roll: 2425; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 37; Image: 429.0.

Here's a zoomed in version...can you tell what it says:

side: see sheet [?] line 119.
relationship: nephew Short S[????]

...the investigation continues...

Census 1920 - Mathias Lund Family - Plain City, Weber, Utah

Source: 1920 U.S. Census, Weber County, Utah, population schedule, Plain City Precinct, enumeration district (ED) 169 (SD) 1, sheet 1-B, dwelling 16, family 16, Mathias C. Lund Family; digital images, Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : downloaded 31 May 2011); NARA microfilm publication T625, 2076 rolls.

Entry: Lines 64-68. Farm. Dwelling #16, Family #16.

Line 64. Lund, Mathias C., Head, Owned, Free. M, W, age 70, Married, immigrated 1869, Naturalized 1874, did not attend school in 1919, can read, can write,  place of birth: Denmark, mother tongue: Danish, father pob: Denmark, mt: Danish, mother pob: Denmark, mt: Danish, can speak English, Farmer, Gen. Farm, employer, farm schedule #16. (“000” written off to the side)

Line 65. ---, Pauline, Wife, F, W, age 65,Married, Immigrated 1869, Naturalized 1874, did not attend school in 1919, cannot read, cannot write, place of birth: Sweden, mother tongue: Swedish, father pob: Sweden, mt: Swedish, mother pob: Sweden, mt. Swedish, can speak English.

Line 66. ---, Sadie, Daughter, F, W, 26, Single, can read, can write, pob: Utah, father pob: Denmark, mother toungue: Danish, mother pob: Sweden, mt: Swedish, speaks English.

Line 66. ---, Clyde, Daughter, F, W, 19, Single, can read, can write, pob: Utah, father pob: Denmark, mother toungue: Danish, mother pob: Sweden, mt: Swedish, speaks English.

Line 66. ---, Lloyd, Son, M, W, 1 2/12, Single, pob: Utah, father pob: Denmark, mother toungue: Danish, mother pob: Sweden, mt: Swedish.

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I don't know who Lloyd Lund is. He is listed as being 1 2/12, so he was born around Oct/Nov 1918. I don't believe he is Pauline's son because she would have been almost 64 years old when he was born - not very likely his mom! he may be the son of either Sadie or Clyde, so Mathias and Pauline's grandson. I'll have to investigate this more. I don't have a Lloyd Lund in my database right now - mostly from other family research. I think I'll start by looking for Clyde and Sadie in the 1930 census (Mathias and Pauline both pass away before then). Perhaps Lloyd is listed with one of them...as their son. Or, I could look for Lloyd's birth certificate. Because he was born after 1911, his records aren't digitized at the Utah State Archives. I would have to go to the county (I assume Weber County, where Plain City is) and order it for $18. I think I'll check the census' first. Any other ideas?

Also, I'd like to find Farm Schedule #16 which should list more details about the Lund Farm. I'd also like to know what the "000" means - listed after Mathias' Line. Many of the other "heads" have a "000" but some have other numbers. I wonder what they mean...not sure where to find the answer to that one. I'll have to find an expert.

Week 8: Can Johnny Come Out and Play?

Chapter 2 - Early Life Memories (up to about 12 years old.)

This topic deals with your friends and playmates from your earliest memories up through your elementary school years....approximately age 12.

Who were your friends or special playmates during this time? Did you play a lot with your brothers and sisters or with children from other families? What games or activities were you good at? Which ones were most difficult for you? Tell me about some memorable event that happened during your play...Did you ever "cook up" and/or eat anything out of the ordinary?...Ever get lots?...Break any windows? Did you ever discover anything strange or unusual? As you played, what was special that you made or took apart, buried or dug up, read or listened to, painted decorated, etc? Did you fly any kites? Were they "store bought" or did you make them yourself? Who helped you?

Did you sew or cook anything special or important to you at the time? Did you (or you and a friend) ever make a gift for a parent, brother or sister, friend, teacher, etc?

What was the gift and why do you remember it so clearly? In those early years, did you ever go exploring in the woods, on a construction site, etc.? What else did you do with your friends and playmates that was significant to you? In addition to your real friends, did you also have any imaginary friends? What were their names? What did you do with your imaginary friends? Why were they important to you?

Mathias Christian Lund - Missionary to Denmark

What a find! The other day I decided to do a Google search for Mathias in all his various names. When I used "Mathias Christan Funk Lund" look what I got -- A book about Scandinavian Missionaries! Apparently, Mathias served an LDS mission back to the motherland. The entire contents of the book are online for all to see. Below is his entry.

Source: Anderson Shauna C., and Susan Easton Black, and Ruth Ellen Maness., Legacy of Sacrifice: Missionaries to Scandinavia, 1872-94 (Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University Press, January 2007), page "K, L"; electronic copy, Brigham Young University, (: accessed 10 June 2011.

Mathias Christian Funk Lund

(Mathias Kristian Funch)

1849–1926

Residence: Plain City, Weber Co., Utah
Arrival date in Copenhagen: 20 June 1888
Missionary labors: Copenhagen Conference
Departure date from Copenhagen: 24 April 1890
Name of departure ship: Cameo

Birth date: 31 August 1849
Birthplace: Arnager, Nylarsker, Bornholm, Denmark
Father: Funch, Didrik Jacobsen
Mother: Hansdatter, Karen (Catherine)
Spouse: Swensson, Pauline Persson
     Marriage date: 11 May 1874
     Marriage place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake Co., Utah
Death date: 2 March 1926
Death place: Ogden, Weber Co., Utah
Burial place: Plain City Cemetery, Plain City, Weber Co., Utah

On 5 September 1858, Mathias was baptized a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He was endowed on 11 May 1874 in the Endowment House in Salt Lake City (see FamilySearch).

While a resident of Plain City, Weber County, Utah, he accepted a mission call to Scandinavia in 1888. He arrived in Copenhagen on 20 June 1888 and was assigned to labor in the Copenhagen Conference. After completing this mission, he departed from Copenhagen on 24 April 1890 aboard the steamer Cameo with 116 emigrating Latter-day Saints and six other missionaries. The voyage across the North Sea was marked with considerable seasickness and stormy weather. The Cameo arrived at Hull, England, on 27 April 1890 (see Jenson, History of the Scandinavian Mission, 307, 313).

Mathias returned to Weber County, where he worked as a farmer in Plain City. He died from pneumonia at the Ogden Hospital at age seventy-six. His funeral was held in the Plain City chapel (see “Plain City Resident’s Funeral Set for Thursday,” Deseret News, 3 March 1926).

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Not only did this entry provide me with lots of new information like mission dates/locations, ship names, and other sources to look for, when combined with everything else I know, I learn more about his wife. Mathias left for his mission in June of 1888 at the age of 38, leaving Pauline at home with 4 young children (ages 11, 6, 3, 1) and 6 months pregnant with her fifth! Wow!

Week 7: My Home

Now that we have the basics out of the way, we'll spend the next few weeks focusing on your early life memories...until about 12 years old. Remember back to the old days...

From the time of your birth up until you were approximately 12 years old, where did you live? Do you have any pictures of this house? Where are they? Label them.

Was it a big house or an apartment? What color was it? Was it in a city or in a rural area? Do you know if that house still exists? What happened to it? Did you have a room all to yourself or did you share a room with someone else? Did anyone live with you and your family? Was there a room or a particular piece of furniture that had a special significance to you? Someplace you would go to feel secure?...a chair that was your dad's favorite?...a couch you used to jump on?...A dresser that you marked on, nailed on, or scratched and got you in trouble? Did you have a television? How big was your first TV set? What were your feelings as you watched those first historic shows? Do you remember the first TV program that you ever watched? What was it? Did your family have a radio? Describe it. What are your special memories regarding that radio and the program(s) that you and your family listed to? What about outside the house? Did you have a big or small yard? Did you have a garden? Did you ever try to plant/eat anything unusual from that garden? What games did you play out there? In the future, I will ask more questions about the homes you lived in later in life.

As always, you can respond to these questions or ignore them or focus only some of the questions. Perhaps these questions aren't relevant to you but spark other topics...feel free to write about those as well!

Census 1910 - Mathias Lund Family - Plain City, Weber, Utah

Moving forward in time, let's check in on the Mathias Lund family in 1910.

Mathias and Pauline are still in Plain City and have 5 of their 10 children living with them. Their oldest four must have married and moved on (?) and their other son died young. I did find his name in newFamilySearch but need to find sources to support it. I may need to make a trip to the Family History Library...I'll post more details when I find them.

Source: 1910 Census, Plain City, Weber, Utah, population schedule, Plain City Precinct, enumeration district (ED) 236, sheet 3A, dwelling 44, family 45, Mathias Lund Family; digital images, Ancestry (Ancestry.com : downloaded 3 May 2011); T624, 1178 rolls.

Entry:
Line 1. Lund, Mathias C. Head, M, W, age 60, 1st Marriage for 36 years, place of birth and language: Den. Danish, father’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, mother’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, immigrated 1869, Naturalized, speaks English, Farmer, General Farm, Employer, can read, can write, Owns property, mortgages, Farm, on farm schedule #33.
Line 2. -----, Pauline. Wife, F, W, age 55, 1st Marriage for 36 years, 10 children born, 9 children living,  pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, father’s pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, mothers pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, immigrated 1863, speaks English, can read, can write.
Line 3. -----, Victor E. Son, M, W, 21, Single, pob: Utah, father’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, mother’s pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, speaks English, Farm Laborer, Farm, working on own account, not out of work on 15 Apr 1910, 5 weeks out of work during 1909, can read, can write.
Line 4. -----, Heber C. Son, M, W, 17, Single, pob: Utah, father’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, mother’s pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, speaks English, Farm Laborer, Farm, working on own account, out of work on 15 Apr 1910, 5 weeks out of work during 1909, can read, can write.
Line 5. -----, Sabie B. Daughter, F, W, 16, Single, pob: Utah, father’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, mother’s pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, speaks English, can read, can write.
Line 6. -----, Zella L. Daughter, F, W, 13, Single, pob: Utah, father’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, mother’s pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, speaks English, can read, can write.
Line 7. -----, Clyde E. Daughter, F, W, 10, Single, pob: Utah, father’s pob/lang: Den. Danish, mother’s pob/lang: Swed. Swedish, speaks English, can read, can write.